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I’m writing this just after Madison Bumgarner’s totally inept outing in the top of the first vs. the Twins, 8 runs, 8 hits in a row, good grief. So, I have a question. How do you rank Giants’ starting pitchers as they are currently performing? Here’s my ranking.

Cain

Vogelsong

Lincecum

Sanchez

Bumgarner

Is Zito better than any of these guys at this moment? I never thought I’d ask that.

My wife, Mrs. Cohn Zohn wonders if Buster Posey’s absence has affected the pitching staff.

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  1. glenellen

    Mrs. Cohn Zone is correct.

    June 21st, 2011 6:55 pm

  2. eb

    I believe you are over evaluating Posey. I’m sure he would help things, but he is not a messiah.

    June 21st, 2011 7:12 pm

  3. Drewmacha

    Without a doubt, the absence of Posey has negatively impacted members of the staff, some more than others. Tim has visibly shown expressions of exasperation for passed balls & “wild pitches” which could have been blocked. Sanchez isn’t always the most consistent performer, but he was pretty damn good at the start of the season, & now can no longer find the strike zone. Mad Bum in particularly has spoken of Buste’s calming influence on him, something which he could have used before it got out of hand.

    June 21st, 2011 7:35 pm

  4. Johnny Christo

    Many new age women detest the Mrs. moniker. You must have grabbed yourself an old-fashioned missus.

    June 21st, 2011 8:08 pm

  5. Johnc

    Zito looks good in the minors.but he will implode when he gets called back up. I would still put Bumgarner ahead of Sanchez because he was pithing well and not getting run support until last night. Then he was not pithing well nor getting run suppport Speaking of support, the Giants went 0 for 31 with men in scoring position until Pesada drove in a run.

    June 22nd, 2011 2:56 am

  6. tkh

    I think you are over valuating Cain…It appears everyone in the media gives him a pass. Lincicum has proven himself year after year yet when he has a few bad games you jump ship. Some day his arm will give out and then you can say I told you so… but until then he is still the best pitcher on the staff. Cain also has given up leads, not pitched well in some games, etc. But somehow, even though his record hovers around 500 year after year he is given a pass. I think it is the bias shown towards big strong pitchers even though itis those same pitchers who are generally the ones that break down with arm trouble. Mrs. cohn is correct, if a pitcher is not confident the catcher can actually catch he will not follow through on his pitches for fear of a wild pitch. This causes hanging sliders…

    June 22nd, 2011 5:52 am

  7. Bob In Pacifica

    Go along with the rating scale. Zito is not better than any of the starters. Posey’s absence is affecting the pitchers although the absence of offense is the biggest problem.

    Sometimes pitchers just fall apart in a game. It’s been such a tightrope with great pitching and no offense that you knew that one of these games would happen, although I would have guessed Sanchez to be the one to crack.

    The Giants started their “hitter infield” last night and the Panda, Tejada and the new dude at second were missing balls all night. And all night only had to be the first inning.

    However, the NFL Network was replaying the 1982 Niners-Cowboys playoff game last night. Good to see The Catch again.

    June 22nd, 2011 6:10 am

  8. MJ

    Its not so much that Zito is better than any of the other 5, its a matter of what you gain by trading a Sanchez for consistent offense. How many of Mads loses would be wins, or atleast no decisions, had they had 1 run more of offense? Also, that offensive production will help all pitchers. If they can get a Pudge Rodriguez that should also help out the psyche of Linc and others, a calming presence behind the plate. And Zito sounds like he is doing very good in his rehab starts.

    June 22nd, 2011 6:47 am

  9. Stan

    In the post game writeup-they said Bum only threw a fastball and occasional slider..no curve,no off speed stuff,and he threw to the same spot. You think Posey or even Molina would have said “Ok ,lets stick to what’s not working?”
    Whiteside-gotta hand it to him. He can’t hit,can’t throw,can’t call a good game..and he’s made more money in two years then Bench did in his first dozen I bet.

    June 22nd, 2011 8:10 am

  10. Stan

    Zito is having great success going against A ballers who cant hit a big curve. MLB players can hit a big curve. And hit it far…

    June 22nd, 2011 8:15 am

  11. Neal

    No Zito is not better then 95% of the starting pitchers in baseball.

    June 22nd, 2011 8:48 am

  12. I Like Eat Crayons

    Are you kidding Lowell??? So, MadBum has ONE BAD OUTING, and you are putting him last on your “list”? This guy ripped off 10 STRAIGHT QUALITY STARTS WITH AN ERA of around 2.00.

    If anything, Vogelsong should be #1 and MadBum #2 the way they’ve pitched the past 1.5 months. A little perspective here, please!

    June 22nd, 2011 9:44 am

  13. Aaron

    Bumgarner was coming off 10 straight quality starts and he had a bad one. It happens, though maybe not to that degree. I’d still rank the Giants pitchers like this:

    1A. Lincecum
    1B. Cain
    3. Bumgarner
    4. Sanchez
    5. Vogelsong
    6. Zito

    June 22nd, 2011 9:54 am

  14. D. Devil's Advocate

    Posey may have a small effect, but the utter inability of the offense to produce on a regular basis surely has a greater wearing factor on the pitching staff. Just watching Tejada bat makes me suicidal, so how do you think the pitchers feel?

    June 22nd, 2011 2:56 pm

  15. POSEY H.O.FAMER

    were doomed without a H.O.F POSEY, WHEN HES NOT WALKING ON WATER hes leading our pitching staff to hall of fame careers!!

    June 26th, 2011 2:00 pm

  16. Michael O'Donnell

    I agree with Aaron…Lincecum, with two Cy Young awards and an incredible post season last year has to be first. Cain has proved more over the years than anyone except Lincecum, especially in the post season last year. Bumgarner is third simply because he seems less erratic than Sanchez. Sanchez is fourth because his career stats are better than Vogelsong. Vogelsong is fifth because he’ s not Zitol

    June 26th, 2011 8:25 pm

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