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Reports are coming out that the Raiders and 49ers will cancel next year’s exhibition game — scheduled for Oakland — because of the violence during and after Saturday’s game at Candlestick Park. Tim Kawakami, that crackerjack columnist from the Mercury News, is the leader in breaking this news. The game could be canceled indefinitely. As you know, I am in favor of canceling as long as fans do not act properly, as long as it is unsafe for people to attend this game. If they continue it, it always should be in daylight hours. To read Tim K click here.

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  1. Ghost of Joe Thomas

    Lowell, this move, if true, is a cop out and does not address the persistent safety issues at Candlestick. The Yorks need to show leadership. Even the incompetent Frank McCourt showed more initiative after the Bryan Stow tragedy. Jed’s interview on KNBR was WEAK and lacked a commitment to a solution. He probably should have brought his dad along. Man, I miss Eddie D and you got to believe that he and Carmen Policy would have got on top of this from the get-go. As a season ticket holder, I was not reassured by Jed today that things will improve. Safety problems exist at ALL 49ers games at Candlestick — not just those vs the Raiders. The crowds are downright scary, and good luck to those fans who park in the outlying dirt lots for a night game. It’s a quest for survival just to get back to your car.

    August 22nd, 2011 11:18 am

  2. Steve

    It’s unfortunate, but had to be done. Too many people were primed and ready for violence. The game was just a convenience where the combatants could come together.

    August 22nd, 2011 11:35 am

  3. Stan

    It was a bad decision from an incompetent 29 year old team president. Just a real I don’t-know-how-to solve-problems solution. And shame for those who agree that giving in to the stupid is to end a tradition.
    Its another way of Jed to avoid responsibility..as the local radio shows have ripped away. And if you do listen those who blame not enough targeting-like Damon Bruce or John Lund,that just feeds hate,bigotry and lets the teams off the hook.
    The rich like the Yorks always claim more money won’t solve problems-right? But more money solves their stadium problems,it solves their top of the line Mercedes need for problems..It solves security in Iraq,but it won’t solve Candlestick..because,then IT’S Jeds money doing the solving for OTHERS. Screw them!

    August 22nd, 2011 12:12 pm

  4. Tiburon Dave

    You go Stan!
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    Jed’s decision is nothing more than a surrender to the .001% of our population who believe in the right of thuggery…
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    Jed’s outright cowardice should be echoing in every living room in Santa Clara…time to pull the plug on this punk’s stadium before he brings rampant thuggery to a neighborhood near you…

    August 22nd, 2011 12:46 pm

  5. Stan

    The only “targeting” needed is somebody who starts trouble to be removed. And with appropiate security the need to be a troublemaker isnt so great I would think.

    August 22nd, 2011 12:58 pm

  6. russell

    The dilemma for the teams is this:

    If the Battle of the Bay played in Oakland next year as planned, and heaven forbid people die, fight like crazy, get hurt, riot, damage property, etc then what? The whole world saw it coming, that’s what. There is no win for the teams that can be justified if the negative occurs.

    Risk vs reward, simple decision.

    August 22nd, 2011 1:30 pm

  7. Pat

    The sordid, violent events at Candlestick on Saturday are a mere reflection of society as a whole. As gangs proliferate, the economy sinks and anger rips through the social fabric, life has become more course and downright more dangerous. I’m a long-time season ticketholder and have watched the changing demographic at Niner games. It’s scary. There are more people watching fights than the game. I’m going to the Niners v Texans game Saturday night. Can’t surrender to the goons and thugs.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:22 pm

  8. Dennis

    It might just be that the game doesn’t bring in enough revenue to make it worth the trouble to put on. That would make sense to me. It might be cheaper to fly to San Diego and back than to hirer an army’s worth of security, which even still can only do so much. You cannot protect everyone from everyone all of the time no matter how much of some one else’ money you want to spend.
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    Lowell was right – somethings are just not worth the risk or the trouble, even though I refused to read his article. I thought he was sensationalizing, but the more I find out the more I find that he was right. My apologies Lowell.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:24 pm

  9. CohnZohn

    Dennis, You still haven’t read it? Please read it or at least take a peek. I swear it’s pretty good and it will do you no harm. I’m sorry if i lectured you earlier. I do that sometimes.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:37 pm

  10. Dennis

    I did not feel lectured to. I thought you had a point to make with me and you did so fair and square. I can take it and when I think I am right I will give it right back – which you will notice I did not do.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:48 pm

  11. Dennis

    I will go and read it now.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:48 pm

  12. Neal

    Come on now, I think Prince of York is very incompetent, but why have a meaningless football game and make it a life or death situation. They can triple the amount of cops but still someone will get beat up or killed. The season ticket holder’s don’t want to go to these lousy meaningless games and that is why we have low life bottom dweller’s attending these games for the most part free. Really who gives a pimple on a pig’s ass if we have this stupid exhibition game.

    August 22nd, 2011 2:56 pm

  13. Stan

    The game Dennis,was pre sold for 50-60,000+ ..something. So,Jed had the money in his pocket to spend for security.
    And all the sports staions-even a KNBR announcer for the 49ers- said the security was almost non existant. Fights that raged on and on with no rush to break them up(95.7′s Brandon first hand account)..booze was flowing like a river in the parking lot. If I was a lawyer for those shot,I would say the 49er org.had premeditated a near riot by ignoring every warning sign. Like Brian Stowe wasn’t a warning enough to what can happen?.
    When a 29 year old silver spoon proves he cant handle day to day operations with a mature common sense..he should resign. If Jed had even a remote sense of guilt he would step down.

    August 22nd, 2011 3:08 pm

  14. Dennis

    So Stan to follow your illogical point to it’s conclusion, because of the Brian Stowe incident, every major league sporting event, no matter the game needs to resemble the ‘green zone’ in Iraq? If not, what does a Giants/Dodger regular season game in LA, a place known for its gang violence, have to do with a 49er/Raider preseason game in San Francisco, known for being a “sanctuary” tolerant city, have to do with it? And why is all of that Jed York’s fault? If you want to be taken seriously, and maybe you don’t, you need to get real.
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    Having 100 times the security isn’t going to protect everyone from everyone. It is just not possible. I say cancel the game and bring someone else in. It is only preseason and who gives a rip who they play.
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    And for what it is worth, I have never felt safe going to any public event at anytime in my life. Doesn’t mean I don’t go. That is just the way it is.

    August 22nd, 2011 3:45 pm

  15. MK

    Great, the three thugs won. And the *hundreds of thousands* of good Niners and Raiders fans — not all of who attend (or can afford to attend) the games — lost.
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    Great leadership.
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    Lowell, I respectfully believe you were wrong in your prior post and still do.
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    When a very small minority of people — indeed, a minuscule fraction — act in bad ways, the answer is not to roll over and die. The answer is to deal harshly — very harshly — with that element. That’s what great countries with a reasonable rule of law do. And it’s what great organizations do as well.
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    There is no greatness in this decision.

    August 22nd, 2011 4:00 pm

  16. Stan

    Cancel because Dennis won’t go now? That’s your selfish answer? And I ALL I have heard from the media Dennis,including KNBR is of the shoddy security. Jed and the 49ers had the money and didnt seem at all interested in investing in people’s safety.
    You want to take the lazy way out? That type of thinkng created the 49ers security problems to begin with.
    Jed York is spending the profit of the Raider-49ers game isnt he?Dennis,yes,I do think he has a huge responsibility for what happened. He is the president of the team and the buck is in his wallet.
    And why Lowell has said nothing about the many,many 49er lack of planning mistakes and allowing patrons to be at risk..well,maybe Lowell is formulating another clearer post…because “cancel the game because people dont behave” can’t be all he thinks of it.

    August 22nd, 2011 5:16 pm

  17. CohnZohn

    Stan, I don’t know if the 49ers had enough security. I was in the pressbox. I don’t want to go on a vendetta against Jed York on the 49ers. This may be beyond them or any other organization. What happened Saturday night seems unprecedented around here — it does to me.

    August 22nd, 2011 5:22 pm

  18. jon

    I was at the game and nobody was being picked on. The people who wanted to fight were fighting other people who wanted to fight. The guy in the bathroom wasnt beatin to a pulp for no reason. He was being really loud and pushing his way through the line. He got hit one time and nobody picked him up because he deserved it.

    August 22nd, 2011 6:37 pm

  19. Cold Facts

    Admitting the lax 49er security responsibility and working toward awareness for a safer fan experience is most certainly not going on a vendetta.. But this is where the dollar is put above you and me, the fan.. The Press Democrat has a vested interest in the 49ers and would never blow the top off a real story how Candlestick is not the same wholesome place your dad told you about.

    August 22nd, 2011 8:31 pm

  20. CohnZohn

    Show me how the Press Democrat has a vested interest in the 49ers. I mean, what in the world are you talking about?

    August 22nd, 2011 8:35 pm

  21. Dennis

    Stan, where do you get me saying I won’t go to a game now? That is pure nonsence. You are just changing the subject because can’t answer the question.

    August 22nd, 2011 9:24 pm

  22. Stan

    As Lowell might say Dennis,if you read past the first sentence,I haven’t avoided anything. And I never do. Unless,it’s none of your damn business!-lol.

    August 23rd, 2011 9:50 am

  23. Stan

    Shootings are NOT beyond any org. Lowell. YOU know that…

    And yes,I do get the final word in..bad habit. Somebody once asked if I was a politician in real life to do that. Nah,comes natural. I dont even try…

    August 23rd, 2011 10:20 am

  24. Dennis

    Yeah, but what does all of that have to do with Brian Stowe? This has never happened here. I mean anything in life is possible, so is your expectation that Jed York should be prepared to the max for every possible problem no matter what it cost?

    August 23rd, 2011 10:20 am

  25. Stan

    Dennis,you’ve blatantly ignored every single example of how the 49ers,Jed,Denise and the 49er mascot could have taken commen sense steps,followed NFL guidlines put out a half decade ago. Without breaking the bank..as a matter of fact Dennis,the settlements will cost far more in money and embrassment then if they had doubled security and clamped down on drinking.
    You must be a National Review reader. The rich do no wrong-all problems are caused by homeless people and drunks who dont vote. A C W Nevius type.

    August 23rd, 2011 11:06 am

  26. Stan

    By the way,somebody coined a perfect name for that SF papers website- S.F.Hate. Perfect. God,I wish I had come up with that. And,fear the beard….

    August 23rd, 2011 11:11 am

  27. Dennis

    I hear you Stan. I don’t subscribe to the theory that the rich or anyone can do no wrong. But I also don’t blame all my problems on the rich nor do I expect them so to solve them.
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    There is nothing that I have read that suggests that had the 49ers followed NFL guidelines this would have been prevented. From what I have read security was beefed up quite a bit for this game. So for you to suggest that the York’s did nothing is flat wrong.

    August 23rd, 2011 2:21 pm

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