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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 05:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel really bad for anyone who thinks the &quot;beach boys always sounded the same&quot;- anyone who thinks that is NOT a real music zealot and is beyond ignorant about what great music is and what makes it. The beatles started out with one solid album (meet the beatles), then 2 soundtrack albums (hard days night &amp; help) and then another solid album (rubber soul); after one more solid album (revolver) they were no longer a band, they were a studio outfit that made 3 more albums (sgt pepper, white album and abbey rd) which were great for what they were but at that time the landscape of rockNroll was repaved into a drug-induced excessive mess to say the least. The beach boys made solid albums from the beginning or at least with surfin usa and every album got better with pet sounds being their apex, after that they made several other phenomenal albums (wild honey, sunflower and holland being the best post-pet sounds in my opinion). So &quot;joshb&quot; if I were you I&#039;d take a better listen to the beach boys output and make a new judgement call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel really bad for anyone who thinks the &#8220;beach boys always sounded the same&#8221;- anyone who thinks that is NOT a real music zealot and is beyond ignorant about what great music is and what makes it. The beatles started out with one solid album (meet the beatles), then 2 soundtrack albums (hard days night &amp; help) and then another solid album (rubber soul); after one more solid album (revolver) they were no longer a band, they were a studio outfit that made 3 more albums (sgt pepper, white album and abbey rd) which were great for what they were but at that time the landscape of rockNroll was repaved into a drug-induced excessive mess to say the least. The beach boys made solid albums from the beginning or at least with surfin usa and every album got better with pet sounds being their apex, after that they made several other phenomenal albums (wild honey, sunflower and holland being the best post-pet sounds in my opinion). So &#8220;joshb&#8221; if I were you I&#8217;d take a better listen to the beach boys output and make a new judgement call.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve grown up around all three, and out of all of them the beach boys are my least favorite. I still dig em, but they are nostalgic at best, ever heard a day in the life by the beatles?? I would put that one song head and shoulders above anything the beach boys have ever done, it was enough to drive brian mad with envy. Literally. He wasnt the same after sgt pepper. Not to mention strawberry fields, revolution, yesterday, lucy in the sky with diamonds, Im so tired, help, ticket to ride, Norwegian wood etc all from different periods in their career. They evolved. The beach boys always sounded the same to me. The stones have some great ones, sympathy for the devil, get off of my cloud, gimmie shelter, ruby tuesday, satisfaction etc Id put them ahead of the beach boys and behind The Beatles. I can say i know more young people who know who the Beatles are and like them. They are timeless. If they are still influential to this day, they have obviously aged just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve grown up around all three, and out of all of them the beach boys are my least favorite. I still dig em, but they are nostalgic at best, ever heard a day in the life by the beatles?? I would put that one song head and shoulders above anything the beach boys have ever done, it was enough to drive brian mad with envy. Literally. He wasnt the same after sgt pepper. Not to mention strawberry fields, revolution, yesterday, lucy in the sky with diamonds, Im so tired, help, ticket to ride, Norwegian wood etc all from different periods in their career. They evolved. The beach boys always sounded the same to me. The stones have some great ones, sympathy for the devil, get off of my cloud, gimmie shelter, ruby tuesday, satisfaction etc Id put them ahead of the beach boys and behind The Beatles. I can say i know more young people who know who the Beatles are and like them. They are timeless. If they are still influential to this day, they have obviously aged just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really boggles my mind how some people undermine the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys were head over shoulders above the Beatles on so many different levels. Some of the comments I see on here are so downright ignorant it&#039;s sickening. The Beach Boys music reflected some of the most well-crafted, brilliant harmonies, melodies and sophisticated arrangements of the 20th century. The Beatles were never able to match what Brian Wilson almost single-handedly did. The Beatles were reliant on George Martin almost entirely for the success they had. McCartney was the genius in the group, Lennon was a self-absorbed egocentric jerk. Pet Sounds gets a lot of credit and rightfully so but the Beach Boys made several amazing albums before and after. Surfin USA, Little Deuce Coupe, All Summer Long, Today, Wild Honey, Sunflower to name a few. People are so stupid and illiterate on their music history.
-joshthekook@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really boggles my mind how some people undermine the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys were head over shoulders above the Beatles on so many different levels. Some of the comments I see on here are so downright ignorant it&#8217;s sickening. The Beach Boys music reflected some of the most well-crafted, brilliant harmonies, melodies and sophisticated arrangements of the 20th century. The Beatles were never able to match what Brian Wilson almost single-handedly did. The Beatles were reliant on George Martin almost entirely for the success they had. McCartney was the genius in the group, Lennon was a self-absorbed egocentric jerk. Pet Sounds gets a lot of credit and rightfully so but the Beach Boys made several amazing albums before and after. Surfin USA, Little Deuce Coupe, All Summer Long, Today, Wild Honey, Sunflower to name a few. People are so stupid and illiterate on their music history.<br />
<a href="mailto:-joshthekook@gmail.com">-joshthekook@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: KauaiRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>KauaiRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Street Fighting Man!!!
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-ALOHA-</p>
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		<title>By: Ric12string</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric12string</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be brief, Lowell. Stick to sports.

One thing to say you like one band more than another. But, it is an entirely different thing for you to say one band is better than another, or that a band&#039;s music hasn&#039;t aged well. You are in over your head here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be brief, Lowell. Stick to sports.</p>
<p>One thing to say you like one band more than another. But, it is an entirely different thing for you to say one band is better than another, or that a band&#8217;s music hasn&#8217;t aged well. You are in over your head here.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnc</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been so many  great bands and individual artists over the years. My all time favorite bands are The Beach Boys, Rolling Stones, Moody Blues, The Who,  and Jethro Tull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been so many  great bands and individual artists over the years. My all time favorite bands are The Beach Boys, Rolling Stones, Moody Blues, The Who,  and Jethro Tull.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cobbler, stick to your shoes, and let that be your last of a very undistinguished career, and we all can hope, blessedly short career as a Rock  &amp; Roll critic. I&#039;d tell you why, but why waste my time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cobbler, stick to your shoes, and let that be your last of a very undistinguished career, and we all can hope, blessedly short career as a Rock  &amp; Roll critic. I&#8217;d tell you why, but why waste my time?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob In Beaverton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob In Beaverton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny for me to have to choose &quot;the best&quot;. I like them all. &quot;Beggar&#039;s Banquet&quot; is great. But I like the Beatles too. Saw them at Shea Stadium (but with all the screaming couldn&#039;t actually HEAR them). But the Beach Boys were great in their own way. All the surf stuff early, then as Brian Wilson&#039;s mental situation deteriorated he started writing pretty weird but amazing songs. The chord changes in &quot;God Only Knows&quot; are amazing. 

Carl and Dennis Wilson had begun writing interesting stuff but died young, and Brian went off the deep end and lost it for decades. Lennon and McCartney were great together, but after the split not so much. The Stones have had some fallow periods and Mick on his own hasn&#039;t shaken the world, but as a band they&#039;ve got a great catalog. I just bought Keith Richards&#039; bio, so maybe I&#039;ll gain an even greater appreciation. 

My girlfriend and I were in bed this afternoon enjoying each other and I had my iPod shuffling through 1300 tunes of sixties and early seventies music. There&#039;s a lot of good music there. Kinks, Four Seasons, heck, Skeeter Davis, Dion. I like Leslie Gore. Buffalo Springfield. The Dave Clark Five had some great tunes. The Hollies. The Animals. The Zombies. The Stooges, the MC5. 

By the way, music didn&#039;t start and end in the sixties in my head. I enjoy Sinatra and show tunes and I was in a punk band back around 1980. Elvis Costello, Sham 69, The Stranglers, The Vibrators, The Replacements, X-Ray Spex, the music goes on and on. 

And I&#039;m glad the Niners resigned Carlos Rogers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny for me to have to choose &#8220;the best&#8221;. I like them all. &#8220;Beggar&#8217;s Banquet&#8221; is great. But I like the Beatles too. Saw them at Shea Stadium (but with all the screaming couldn&#8217;t actually HEAR them). But the Beach Boys were great in their own way. All the surf stuff early, then as Brian Wilson&#8217;s mental situation deteriorated he started writing pretty weird but amazing songs. The chord changes in &#8220;God Only Knows&#8221; are amazing. </p>
<p>Carl and Dennis Wilson had begun writing interesting stuff but died young, and Brian went off the deep end and lost it for decades. Lennon and McCartney were great together, but after the split not so much. The Stones have had some fallow periods and Mick on his own hasn&#8217;t shaken the world, but as a band they&#8217;ve got a great catalog. I just bought Keith Richards&#8217; bio, so maybe I&#8217;ll gain an even greater appreciation. </p>
<p>My girlfriend and I were in bed this afternoon enjoying each other and I had my iPod shuffling through 1300 tunes of sixties and early seventies music. There&#8217;s a lot of good music there. Kinks, Four Seasons, heck, Skeeter Davis, Dion. I like Leslie Gore. Buffalo Springfield. The Dave Clark Five had some great tunes. The Hollies. The Animals. The Zombies. The Stooges, the MC5. </p>
<p>By the way, music didn&#8217;t start and end in the sixties in my head. I enjoy Sinatra and show tunes and I was in a punk band back around 1980. Elvis Costello, Sham 69, The Stranglers, The Vibrators, The Replacements, X-Ray Spex, the music goes on and on. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad the Niners resigned Carlos Rogers.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beach Boys songs all sound the same.  I wouldn&#039;t even have them in my top 25 groups of all time.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great bands one and all

but the Beatles are kings of all time!    How dare you suggest otherwise.</description>
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<p>but the Beatles are kings of all time!    How dare you suggest otherwise.</p>
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