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I’m writing a column about Alex Smith for Thursday, one on Bountygate for Friday. But a quick note on Bountygate. I’m glad Sean Payton is banned a year. It should be for life. With Gregg Williams it may very well be for life. Let’s be clear. There’s a difference between a game and assault. Simple as that.

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  1. PhD

    Sean Payton and Gregg Williams are now on a Ramen noodle every night kind of budget.

    March 21st, 2012 1:06 pm

  2. KauaiRobert

    Amen Lowell!
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    They lost a ton of dough and Draft picks too.
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    In short, the Saints got SLAMMED!!!
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    Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!
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    -ALOHA-

    March 21st, 2012 1:26 pm

  3. Dave T

    Lowell, as you know I am a tried and true Steeler fan and therefore a fan of good ole fashioned hard nosed knock to the turf football. But having said that, I think you need to do that within the rules. Having a system that places a premium on injuring players is not just over the line, but way over the line and I applaud the commissioner and the NFL for taking this stand. It is for the good of the NFL. We can and should take issue with and debate rules protecting the Quarterback, blind hits or defenseless receiver hits which to me those are similar yet seperate issues from placing a bounty on a player. This may run as unpopular, but I am with you here, this was a bold move by the NFL and I for one personally support it.

    March 21st, 2012 1:27 pm

  4. Stan

    Larry Krueger was ranting when he first heard it “How can they do that? Wheres the proof,where are the stats?”..Like Larry didn’t hear Payton admit guilt?..and only later did Kreuger read a sheet handed to him that N.O. led the league in flagrant fould two years in a row,etc,etc.
    Now,this is on top of his SF vs NO pre playoff game rant that the 49ers needed to hurt Bree’s -”knock him out early”
    Amazingly stupid comments for a public figure.
    Now,people think I pick on Kreuger because of his bigoted 2005 rant and subsequent firing. But.I listened to him on his return..and he’s so wrong on every big topic,its like a chronic mental condition to be wrong with him. His anti Lowell rant,his Henry Schulman dust ups…his bragging that HE is a tough reporter..then talks like a sheep with Lacob sitting right there…no Krueger rant to Lacobs face that the Monta deal was terrible,his hiring his son in the FO a bad move…
    Krueger-paid to be both wrong and Radnich’s comic releif. Some career.

    March 21st, 2012 1:40 pm

  5. Doug A

    I am glad the NFL took a hard stance on this. The game is rough enough without the brass adding an incentive to maim.

    A couple of things are unclear to me. Does this mean that Payton cannot participate in anything NFL related for a year? If the GM is banned for 8 games, does this mean that he can’t run the 2012 draft, or even be behind the scenes? How would this be enforced?

    March 21st, 2012 1:41 pm

  6. KauaiRobert

    I was just reading that Sapp, via Twitter, outed Shockey as the “snitch” that started the Bountygate investigation.
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    He works for NFL Network which of course, is run by the NFL.
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    I wonder if they’ll can him for that remark.
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    If Shockey helped the league’s investigation, I don’t think they’d allow one of their on-air commentators to bash him publicly because of it.
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    Anyone?
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    -ALOHA-

    March 21st, 2012 2:02 pm

  7. Streetglide

    Sapp is a giant jerk, a man of limited intelligence. I remember him going away from the play to injure an offensive lineman who was just standing there. He made some comment about the guy being white. I don’t ever forget that type of behavior…

    March 21st, 2012 2:14 pm

  8. Sean

    Has there ever been a crazier week in NFL offseason history?

    March 21st, 2012 2:33 pm

  9. Tiburon Dave

    Righteous indignation not withstanding…I’m having some trouble seeing this headline grab being allowed to stand.

    It’s not going to affect the ongoing head injury lawsuits and it effectively destroys one of the feel good franchises in the NFL. Who doesn’t love Tom Benson?

    Can you see the Maras, Rooneys, Krafts, & Jones families stand by and applaud while their friend Tom gets badly hurt?

    Your thoughts?

    March 21st, 2012 2:39 pm

  10. Dave T

    Have done some more reading on this. It seems the major issue with the NFL is not just the bounty program, it is the denial and cover up by Payton and his staff. The NFL has long had a policy for in game cash awards for anything. What you can incent players for is in a contract, like INT’s, TD’s, sacks, tackles, tackles for loss, passes defensed, making the playoffs, Super Bowl or Pro Bowl. The harder you play, hit, etc will likely get you and your team these things and therefore you are paid for “de-cleating” a player that comes across the middle to catch a pass. The league is not saying you can’t have incentive laden contracts, but you could never put something in a contract that would incent for injuring a player, the NFLPA and Owners would never allow that, let alone the NFL. The “bounty” rule is merely an extent of that.

    Back to what I started with, the NFL was more concerned with the denial and cover up of this stemming back to 2010. Meaning this carried on for at least a season plus. I am guessing here, but think it is a fair guess, that had payton and Williams come clean at that time and put a stop to it the penalty would have been far far smaller. It was the flying int he face of the NFL and continuing it that cost these men and their franchise dearly.

    March 21st, 2012 2:40 pm

  11. glenellen

    I agree Lowell.
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    Names were named and there will be law suits.
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    On a side note: Stan sure listens to Larry K. alot. He knows everything about him.
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    March 21st, 2012 2:52 pm

  12. Stan

    And glenellen like all MY critics avoids any proof I’m wrong..just use sideways talk. glenellen-Have I made up anything I quoted of Krueger?..No.

    btw-I would say I hear just as much Papa or Teirney and Davis,Rise Guys..why dont I post as much about them? Because they arent so wong (and so often) that its offensive. Larry is.

    March 21st, 2012 3:14 pm

  13. Johnc

    Looking forward to the BountyGate column. This assault mentality explains why the Saints were blitzing all the time in a pre-season game last year against the Niners. They wanted to take Smith out before the season began.

    March 21st, 2012 3:50 pm

  14. Tommy CostaRica

    Lowell, you were right on this one from the start and I felt the same way. Maybe if they would have nailed Ditka years ago for outwardly doing the same thing against a couple of kickers including the 9ers, this whole scandle wouldn’t of happened. As a 98er fan I’m loathing as it happened to the ever hated Saints and the Rams, but this is truely bad for NFL Football and they couldn’t throw the book at these guys hard enough as far as I’m concerned. These kind of scum balls were like the bad kids on the playground. What are the Rams going to do? Don’t they have to just fire Williams and get a new coach?

    March 21st, 2012 4:53 pm

  15. chris

    Lowell……….you crack me up. So what happens in a boxing match because its a game is not assault ? What Goldson did to Pierre Thomas is not assault? What Scott Cousins did to Buster Posey is not assault just because its in the parameters of a game? Sorry but theres no difference between assault and a game in those instances.

    March 21st, 2012 5:11 pm

  16. Stan

    And its really a misnomer to call it a “bounty’ isn’t it? That implies that the victim commited a crime. Maybe call it “attempted assasination?..well,something like that.

    March 21st, 2012 5:44 pm

  17. MCofSac

    I agree with LC on this SP should’ve been suspended for life as well as Loomis.

    I don’t think it should’ve stopped there either. NO didn’t lose a 1st round this yr because it was already traded away, but they should’ve lost next years, and this years franchise tag. Strip them of their Lombardi Trophy.

    I know I’m sick of hearing that the punishments may be too severe. BS, they were trying to injure players intentionally. Possibly end their careers (and their ability to earn 10′s of millions of dollars).

    Too severe? Heck no NOT severe enough!

    March 21st, 2012 7:12 pm

  18. mike

    Anybody who ever has stepped between the white lines understands the basic nature of the game and definitely can differentiate between playing within the rules and playing outside the rules. If not, my sympathies for you. Having heard a player’s knee explode in my ear hole on a legitimate block in the old days, I only cringe at the thought of players going beyond the scope of the rules of the game for a price. Smacks of poor sportsmanship; bad ethics to say the least and harms the integrity of the game. Coaches, front office personnel as well as players who condone or contribute to such a philosophy definitely need to be separated from the game.

    March 21st, 2012 7:49 pm

  19. Mark M

    I’m amazed it was this severe. Goodell deserves a lot of respect for the way he is policing things in this sport. Well done.

    March 21st, 2012 10:38 pm

  20. D. Devil's Advocate, Esq.

    Norman Hunter says all those NFL players are a bunch of minging wankers.

    March 22nd, 2012 2:38 am

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