As you know I watched The Godfather yesterday. Grant watched it also and then he watched Godfather II. He’s a much better critic than I am and later he explained the difference between Don Corleone and Micheal Corleone. The old don worked out problems — at least much of the time — through diplomacy and negotiation. Michael, to use Grant’s phrase, “eliminates” problems. That pretty much means he kills anyone who crosses him. By the end of the second movie, Michael, who started out so innocent, is a monster. You never would want to cross him. The Godfather movies are his downfall, his tragedy.

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  1. Stan

    Michael killed poor Fredo who famously said “I’m smart,not dumb like everybody says”. OK,so Fredo took sides and set Mike up…but Fredo sleeps with the fishes now. RIP Fredo.

    August 6th, 2012 5:45 pm

  2. KauaiRobert

    I love the Godfather movies too Lowell.
    Have you ever seen them put together as the Godfather Saga?
    They put the entire story in chronlogical order and add scenes that weren’t included in the originals.
    (Someone may have already mentioned this in the last thread. If so, sorry.)
    And yes, WAAAAAY too many commercials on that network!
    I think the Don and Michael were quite similar actually.
    He, Sonny and Michael were like water…Michael was cold, the Don was luke warm, and Sonny was hot.
    Fredo was like wilted lettuce.

    August 6th, 2012 6:23 pm

  3. Tommy CostaRica

    Ok Lowell based on your recommendations I have just picked up a blue-ray, high quality definition Godfather I file and will begin to watch it right now with my Argentinian 2009 cab.

    August 6th, 2012 8:42 pm

  4. CohnZohn

    Tommy CostaRica, give me a report on both.

    August 6th, 2012 8:51 pm

  5. Lo Sbandato

    Vito killed to get into his position, and killed when necessary to keep that position. There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two. Whacking people is a way of life for these guys. In fact, that’s the only way anything really changes in the Mafia (or Camorra or Ndragheta or SCU or Yakuza): kill or be killed.

    August 6th, 2012 11:10 pm

  6. soccerjim

    Who killed the hitmen that tried to kill Michael after the party at Lake Tahoe? I have tried to find that answer for years?

    August 7th, 2012 9:18 am

  7. Stan

    Ok,Ok,lets point out the hypocritical message of the Mafia in the movies..give to the church,woman must be pure,stick to roles as mothers and wives. And we dont deal with the drugs and blacks..until that became big money..then they changed their minds.
    But,not much of that sank in with the lay public did it? Nope,they saw money,big cars and a minority with a tall young and blond Diane Keaton. The Government spent a fortune after the Godfather going after the costra nostra I would think because of the resurgence it got from popularity. The Godfather was a social media addictive drug. And we paid through the nose.

    August 7th, 2012 9:56 am

  8. CohnZohn

    soccerjim, You got me.

    August 7th, 2012 4:09 pm

  9. Lo Sbandato

    Stan, the Sicilian and American Mafia were dealing drugs way back in the 30′s, and everybody in those organizations knew it. The problem was not a moral issue, it was the dons were worried that the heavy sentences for narcotics would cause more guys to flip.

    The gov’t spent a fortune because for decades, J. Edgar refused to acknowledge the existence of “organized crime”, so nothing was really done above the local level. By the time they actually started to do something, those organizations were firmly entrenched nationwide.

    soccerjim – That’s probably the most discussed plot hole in the entire series. It’s up there with “Who shot the chauffeur in THE BIG SLEEP?”

    August 7th, 2012 6:09 pm

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