Comments on: Barry Bonds — a note

By: Rucrazy

Rucrazy — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:57:57 +0000

Lowell,

I respect your vote but i was just wondering when was the first time you used steroids and baseball in the same sentence. What year was it? What I would like to know is when was the first time each writer/voter brought up this issue. It may be me but I believe it took lame as congress to bring it up.

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:42:19 +0000

Bonds, Mac, Clemens, Bonds, Sosa, Palmeiro. None can get in. Their stories, their memorabilia, their names are already part of the Hall of Fame museum and the history of the game.

But you can’t give them induction. How can you have a ceremony where Bonds stands shoulder to shoulder with Hank Aaron? Their numbers are fraudulent for a club that is very much about the numbers.

They cheated, they got paid, their actions not only affected the record books, but kept other players from potentially reaching their dreams. Steroids may have kept Mac on the field in the early 90′s…how would you feel if in 1991 you were the AAA 1B in the A’s system? Careers, were changed — lives were forever changed because of their crimes.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:15:56 +0000

All this talk about Bonds, but does he even care? I’m sure on some level he does, but he’s never seemed to care what the public or sportswritters thought of him in the past.

By: Joe H.

Joe H. — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:47:25 +0000

Lowell,

You own NOBODY an apology.

You did the right thing.

By: Johnc

Johnc — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:29:38 +0000

The PED era of baseball was part of its history and it permeated baseball. Bud Selig should have a special place in the Baseball Hall of Shame

There is no consensus criteria as to who gets into the Hall of Fame. Bonds would get in easily based on statistics alone but there is the ethical litmus test being applied by the “geniuses” that vote.

Ray Ratto has an interesting take on the subject when he said he votes for statistics only because there was a time when baseball cheated the world by excluding black players and that is worse than taking PEDs. White players were afforded unfair advantage to fame and forturne which in effect was cheating baseball and that was a bigger ethical breach than taking stuff.

By: htwaits

htwaits — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:06:41 +0000

Of course not. It is not my intent to imply that you should apologize for the structure of your blog. I understand why the structure you use in necessary. I agree with the use of that structure.

The exchanges are what are most interesting in your blog. I was expressing the regret that long interruptions have an effect on those exchanges.

Enjoy.

By: CohnZohn

CohnZohn — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:55:29 +0000

htwaits, Excuse me but I have a life. I was busy all day and only got to my blog late this evening. Am I supposed to apologize for that?

By: htwaits

htwaits — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:12:15 +0000

When comments are held back for extended periods of time waiting for approval, it detracts from the exchange of ideas here in the CohnZohn.

Some time after Frank in Minnesota posted at 12:24 PM Thursday, I posted about Bonds and cheating. Mainly my post was inspired by the idea that an exchange between Lowell and Glenn Dickey on the Bonds cheating issue would be interesting. In a second post, I quoted the lead paragraph in Glenn’s Wednesday subscription article on that very issue.

It’s now about 9.5 hours later, and there have been no additional posts cleared for display. Such big lags seem to me to detract from this blog.

By: Neal

Neal — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 05:15:51 +0000

Bonds best stats were the last 5 years of his career. What does that tell you.Lowell did you vote yes for anyone like Jack Morris?

By: Stan

Stan — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:20:29 +0000

Tim Kawakami writer of the year? Of course..the last two years his style changed- as I noted. He became one of the dull,never provocative writers that usually win that award.
I said over and over…stop the 19,ooo “Al Davis bashing” columns and Tim would be in for a Pulitzer. I’m close.