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Here is the opening to my Tuesday column examining the Monta Ellis for Andrew Bogut trade almost a year later:

There has been disappointment about Andrew Bogut, and with good reason. He has been a presence on the Warriors in the sense of mostly being an absence. And now, in addition to his bum ankle, he has a bad back and he has a doctor’s note for more absences. If he were a student, you’d call him a truant.

Bogut’s status — call it non-status — raises a question. Did the Warriors blow it March 13 when they traded Monta Ellis for Bogut? Other players were involved, but Ellis and Bogut were the crux of the issue.

There’s another way to phrase the question. Would you prefer the Warriors never had made that dramatic trade?

To read the full column, click here.

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14 Comments

  1. Steve the cat rescuer

    Couldn’t have stated it better.

    February 25th, 2013 11:50 pm

  2. chewie

    Agree it was a good trade. What about the trade that should have happened this year that nobody talks enough about? The one where OKC talked to the Warriors about trading James Harden for Klay Thompson. Harden for Thompson straight up and the Warriors passed. Incredible!

    February 26th, 2013 12:07 am

  3. Dennis

    chewie, if that trade was discussed the problem for the Warriors would have been money. Harden make $14 million more per year than Thomson and the Warriors were already over the cap. It was a good non-move for the Warriors because they would have had to give up a lot more than Thomson to make it work.

    February 26th, 2013 8:33 am

  4. Dennis

    Lowell, I agree with you it was a great trade. I think the most important part of the trade was it allowed them to get Jarret Jack. For me, this is becoming his team. His determination and fire is rubbing off on our young back court. He is the difference between this year and last year. So I look at the trade more like it was Ellis for Jack, even though I know that is not what happened. Good article.

    February 26th, 2013 8:43 am

  5. Owen

    A ham sandwich for Ellis is a beneficial deal. Ellis is NOT a winner. He is undisciplined, selfish, uncoachable and as dumb as a rock. Winning teams create chemistry, five play as one, sacrifice for each other. Three concepts alien to Ellis. His departure is addition by subtraction. When Bogut gets healthy his contributions will be gravy

    February 26th, 2013 11:00 am

  6. Tess

    Of course it was a great move. Shedding Ellis allowed curry to assume leadership. A necessary move if elite status was to be achieved. Never happens if Ellis stays. He considers himself a superior player and fought every move to allow curry’s growth. for the first time in two decades the warriors have a nucleus capable of staying with the big boys. A well coached team who can shoot, rebound, defend and move without the ball. In essence a fundamentally sound group with the ability to contend. Shedding Ellis was an essential move in achieving that plateau.

    February 26th, 2013 11:11 am

  7. Stan

    Kreuger and Raddy were patting each other on the back for Boguts injuries. As they did,everybody in the building knew that wasn’t the point of the trade. Just getting Monta off the team was the real point. And as they crowed,the Warriors eying the playoffs was ignored.
    How insecure a sports guy can you be?

    February 26th, 2013 4:51 pm

  8. Stan

    And if the promise of a broken down player is all the Warriors could get for Bogut,it was still worth it. IF THAT’S what it took to get GS to move him,then good.
    And don’t think that his sexual harassment to a woman in the Warrior organization wasn’t part of it. That’s really crossing a line with employee’s who would like to think the team doesn’t let them be prey for the wealthy player or star.

    February 27th, 2013 11:22 am

  9. Mark M

    Good article on a complex situation as it plays out. We’re better with him being gone, I readily admit that. But wouldn’t you rather still have him around for a part of this season, if only so we could have taken a trade shot at getting someone who COULD play?

    I suppose this will play out a while longer and if Bogut comes back in time for a playoff experience, we may view this differently. But right now, it feels to me as though our doctors blew it researching Bogut and thus management’s attempt to make him a franchise center piece seems mistaken.

    February 27th, 2013 3:48 pm

  10. Stan

    Name the 7′ who came back from serious injuries. Bowie-Ming and in between…none did.

    February 28th, 2013 1:01 pm

  11. Elliott

    Last nite was proof positive that there is a new sheriff in town. Getting rid of Ellis was necessary if Curry was to shine. Ellis was like slime dragging the franchise under

    February 28th, 2013 5:21 pm

  12. fitzwilliam

    Monta Ellis is a talented player and would be an asset to ANY team. People who continue to diss him are just plain lame and will go to their graves saying it was a good trade. But the reality of the situation is that it was one of the worst trades around. Just look at the stat sheet of each player for the year,and that isn’t even taking into consideration how much Bogut slows the Warriors down and why they lose more games with him than without him. Financially, it could have been a good trade if we would have got something out of it, but what we did was give away something for nothing. Bogut is not coming back, and if he does, it will be with restrictions until he’s out again. He will not make a contribution to the team until his contract expires or we can trade him for someone big and healthy (think Tiago Splitter, Jermain O’Neil — such players exist, but the Warriors never seem to get them). What has saved Lacob’s bacon is that the Warriors managed to make the playoffs this year without Bogut, because if we were sitting below 8th seed with the Australian bum out with yet another injury, Lacob would be getting more than boo’s.

    March 2nd, 2013 4:39 pm

  13. Own

    There is not a winning team that will touch Ellis. Pop knows what a dumb, selfish unprincipled individual he is. Would never allow such a disease in his locker room. The people reading stat lines have the mentality which made the Warriors mediocre for 20 years

    March 2nd, 2013 9:31 pm

  14. evie

    Hey Fitzwilliam,
    You are quick to judge and certain of your belief. Your player analysis is so perfect for a stat obsessed fantasy owner. Truth be told we are better without Ellis. Why? Because is so often the case with straight from high school players he is uncoachable He listens to know one, believes his game without flaws, resentful of teammates he believes receive preferential treament. He is the heir to the crown of Latrell Sprewell, another player who lacked the intellect or guts to be a winner. There are times you add by subtraction. As when the Lakers traded Nixon to allow Magic to flourish. Ellis is an albatross who had to be jettisoned for Curry to take flight.

    March 5th, 2013 12:18 am

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